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    Default Torque for Android

    For those of you with Android phones, there is an application called Torque which allows you to read the data off your car's ODB2 port

    Torque Free
    Torque (Paid)

    Anyways, thought I would start an "official" thread/FAQ for this application, containing user experiences and so forth

    i have a nexus one (3.7 inch screen) & bought one of these:
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    nothing fancy, but does the job... turns out my PIN to connect the device was 6789, had to insert the disc to find that out... was in a .txt file with horribly written english

    Anyways, have found the "small" dials too be far too small to actually be useable on the phone whilst it's mounted in the car, which means i use 2 of the the medium size ones

    there doesnt seem to be that much delay due to bluetooth, but then again, it's not exactly easy to tell...

    only thing i have noticed, dont seem to hit double digits in terms of boost in 1st even with hypertech

    as for mazda and/or mazdaspeed specific PID's:
    (will update this thread as confirmation of different ones comes to hand)
    Quote Originally Posted by darkness View Post
    Ok haven't tested these yet, But credit to the MSF guys for these, they've obviously done a lot of work to figure them out. No word on Knock Retard yet.

    PIDS that work out of the box with Torque:
    Load
    Fuel Level
    RPM
    Intake Temp
    Intake manifold pressure(in kPa)
    Coolant Temp
    Vacuum/Boost Gauge
    Barometric Pressure
    Mass air flow rate(in g/s not voltage)
    Throttle Position
    Timing Advance(Works, at WOT shows near 0 degrees. Yay stock tune!)

    Enhanced PIDs you have to manually enter
    Long name & short name can be whatever you want. I tried to stick to conventional names.

    LTFT Long Term Fuel Trim?
    OBD2 PID: 0107
    Long Name: LTFT
    Short Name: LTFT
    Minimum Value: -25
    Maximum Value: 25
    Scale Factor: x1
    Unit Type: %
    Equation: (A-128)*100/128
    Gen 1 Status:
    Gen 2 Status: Working and confirmed
    MS6 Status:

    STFT Short Term Fuel Trim?
    OBD2 PID: 0106
    Long Name: STFT
    Short Name: STFT
    Minimum Value: -25
    Maximum Value: 25
    Scale Factor: x1
    Unit Type: %
    Equation: (A-128)*100/128
    Gen 1 Status:
    Gen 2 Status: Working and confirmed
    MS6 Status:

    Fuel Pressure
    OBD2 PID: 0123
    Long Name: FP
    Short Name: FP
    Minimum Value: 0
    Maximum Value: 2500
    Scale Factor: x1
    Unit Type: %
    Equation: (A*256+B)*10*.145
    Gen 1 Status:
    Gen 2 Status: Working and confirmed
    MS6 Status:

    Open Loop Commanded Air/Fuel Ratio
    OBD2 PID: 0144
    Long Name: AFR
    Short Name: AFR
    Minimum Value: 0
    Maximum Value: 20
    Scale Factor: x1
    Unit Type: A/F
    Equation: (A*256+B)/32768*14.7
    Gen 1 Status:
    Gen 2 Status: Working and confirmed
    MS6 Status:

    OEM Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio
    OBD2 PID: 0134
    Long Name: WAFR
    Short Name: WAFR
    Minimum Value: 0
    Maximum Value: 20
    Scale Factor: x1
    Unit Type: A/F
    Equation: (A*256+B)/32768*14.7
    Gen 1 Status:
    Gen 2 Status: Working and confirmed
    MS6 Status:

    Cat Temp
    OBD2 PID: 013c
    Long Name: Cat Temp
    Short Name: Cat Temp
    Minimum Value: 0
    Maximum Value: 2000
    Scale Factor: x1
    Unit Type: F
    Equation: ((A*256+B)/10-40)*1.8+32
    Gen 1 Status:
    Gen 2 Status: Working and confirmed
    MS6 Status:

    Absolute Load
    OBD2 PID: 0143
    Long Name: Abs Load
    Short Name: Abs Load
    Minimum Value: 0
    Maximum Value: 255
    Scale Factor: x1
    Unit Type: %
    Equation: (A*256+B)*100/255
    Gen 1 Status:
    Gen 2 Status: Working and confirmed
    MS6 Status:

    Intake Manifold Absolute Pressure
    OBD2 PID: 010b
    Long Name: IMAP
    Short Name: IMAP
    Minimum Value: 0
    Maximum Value: 100
    Scale Factor: x1
    Unit Type: PSI
    Equation: A*.145
    Gen 1 Status:
    Gen 2 Status: Working and confirmed
    MS6 Status:
    anyways, will update this as i go along
    if anyone else has questions/experiences with this application, feel free to post
    Last edited by SarcasticOne; 15-03-2011 at 10:31 PM.
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    And for the record I'm using and HTC Desire HD with this bluetooth unit $52.99 - ELM327 Bluetooth OBD-II Wireless Transceiver Dongle - OBD/OBD2 Car Diag. Tools

    have played with Torque a little so far. Getting a windscreen mount for my phone shortly to I can use the gauges while driving. It's been very useful for clearing error codes when i forget to plug the afm back in.

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    I've had the app and the bluetooth thing sitting here for over a month, just never got around to testing it out. Might have to give it a try now

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasticOne View Post
    ...there doesnt seem to be that much delay due to bluetooth, but then again, it's not exactly easy to tell...
    If you are only using a small number of PID - say less than eight, there is some additional latency on bluetooth but it might not be too noticable.
    Using a PC and bluetooth to log large number of PID values, you really begin to notice the slower speed and latency.
    Obviously not practical for phones, but USB capable of much faster, lower latency data read....it has more of a bearing the more you try to log and/or use.

    Ive seen as much as 1 or 2 sec latency when really overloading the bluetooth. Go for a squirt and then glance at the gauges to see what was happening a couple of seconds ago....,
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    Does Torque have logging capabilities? Already got a ScanGauge2 but this would be killer if it could log

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    There seems to be 2 types of logging. It will log to a file that you can email to yourself, which also allows you to import it into Google earth. Or upload to torques server which you can log into see gps stats vs obd readings.

    It doesn't log everything though and im trying to figure out how to log more.

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    If anyone know how to put a .apk file on the Forum i have the install for the full version of torque on my PC, i'm a member of AppBucket and they have heaps of free apps. Saves the $5 if you like but i dont have any idea how to put a file on the internet.

    You just need to make a foler on your phone and put the install in it and then use astro to open.

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    Could zip it up and post it Bakis, that would be great

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    as TD said, .zip?

    i can add it to my first post if you wish

    i'll probably look into testing out some of the custom PID's this weekend

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    Anyone tried an Android tablet with Torque? I'm giving up on my Garmin. After updating the Nuvi, it's just slows right down!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeldarb View Post
    Anyone tried an Android tablet with Torque? I'm giving up on my Garmin. After updating the Nuvi, it's just slows right down!!!
    I'm waiting for a decent tablet to come out preferably a htc one... Might give the numbered boxes, rather than the dials, a go this weekend on the couple of trips I need to do, see how they go
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    It's 1.68MB cant zip it umm if people want just PM me there email and ill email it to you

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    email it to me and I will add it to forum

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    well, i've had a play around with the logging, and the frequency of all the changes seems to occur every 0.4 seconds...
    having a look around atm

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    they export the data as a .csv, then use excel graph to plot it
    for some reason i cant get it to record ambient temperatures... mildly annoying...
    boost seems weird, but not sure how it's recorded on the ECU
    intake temperature and speed:
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    Well, my decision got made for me today. Just got the old IPad 16gig WiFi for $398 new from BigW. Guess I won't be getting an Android Tablet then. I'll have start another thread

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    bit more faffing around with it's logging capabilities.... you can export it as a KML file to open in google earth:
    if you export it as KML points you get the following: every 0.5 seconds tells you how fast you're going (either by ODB2 port or GPS speed, your choice which you want it to log)
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    it can also just do it as a line, which doesnt give you speed details
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    seems fairly accurate, on some of the parts around my house (not shown here for privacy's sake) there is a heap of back streets etc, and it did a good job of knowing which ones i went down
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    And if you allow torque to upload to it's own website you get this:

    a list of "logs" or each session you've uploaded on the left. Google gps maps of your drive. and a breakdown of the logs below. With the upper part able to be a subset of the full view which is just below it.

    And i'm pretty sure you can have more logged in the bottom section. (Not sure what that kff1007 is).
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    haha Darkness, You drove pass my old house

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    hmmm, will have a look into that next weekend as well

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