User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 33

Thread: 19's and you - Wheel fitment to MPS6 question

  1. #1

    Default 19's and you - Wheel fitment to MPS6 question

    Ok guys, so I am selling some 19" wheels and I have been asked if they will fit an MPS 6 without guard rolling. I have done a search but couldn't find the answer. The specs of the wheels are 19"x8", +45 offset and a PCD of 5x114.3. The tyres are 225/35/19 and they originally came off an MPS3. They guy thats interested in them didn't say whether it was lowered or not so at this stage I will assume it is stock height.

    So does anyone run this combo and did you have to get the guards rolled?

    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by naddis01; 30-12-2010 at 07:57 PM.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Craigieburn
    Age
    50
    Posts
    1,642
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Roll the gaurds a certainty with 235/35R19 and a near certainty with 225/35R19...Some 225/45R18 can rub on a 3 at +48 offset. Your sidewall is another 3mm outward @ +45 and squarer due to 35 profile and 19". VERY firm expectation that you will need to roll your gaurds if it was a 3. you might have just a bit more room on a 6, but I'd expect much the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by naddis01 View Post
    Ok guys, so I am selling some 19" wheels and I have been asked if they will fit an MPS 6 without guard rolling. I have done a search but couldn't find the answer. The specs of the wheels are 19"x8", +45 offset and a PCD of 5x114.3. The tyres are 225/35/19 and they originally came off an MPS3. They guy didn't say whether it was lowered or not so at this stage I will assume it is stock height.

    So does anyone run this combo and did you have to get the guards rolled?

    Thanks in advance.
    "Blue Meanie" 2007 Aurora Blue MPS 3 - 18x8.5+44 SSR GTX01 - 235/40R18 Michelin PS5 - 3.5" ETS TMIC - CPE stg 2 mount - HKS/CPE BPV - 2XS inlet - 2XS short shift - Corksport turbo manifold - HT 98 octane tune - Leather/Aluminium handbrake - Momo shifty knob - 7" touchscreen - JDM Mazda Retractable dashtop screen assembly - Bespoke Raspberry Pi Android based GPS/Carplay and instrumentation - 36AH reserve battery and C-TEK isolator - TEIN Street Advanced coilovers 1" drop - Superpro bushings - 220Kw/410Nm.

    "Lipstick" 2013 Velocity Red MPS 3 - 18x7.5+48 Enkei RPF1 -225/40R18 Federal RS-RR - CPE TMIC - COBB inlet - CPE stg 2 mount - COBB Stage 1 98 octane tune - COBB shifty knob - 2XS short shift - 2XS turbo manifold.

  3. #3

    Default

    So not 100% sure yet? But looks likely?

    What are the specs of the 6 MPS? 18"x7.5"? What offset are they, +50ish? What size tyres do they run?

    Hopefully there is someone on here with this combo.

  4. Default

    6MPS stock is 18x7 with 215/45/18 and offset is +52.5 or something like that

  5. #5

    Default

    Ok guys the car is stock height. I asked if he could check the offset for me.

    Do they have a space saver or full size spare? So he can check the offset.

    ---------- Post added at 06:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:56 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by blackbetty View Post
    6MPS stock is 18x7 with 215/45/18 and offset is +52.5 or something like that
    If that is the case, a 225/35/19 actually has a smaller diameter than the stock tyre.

    ---------- Post added at 07:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:02 PM ----------

    Ok he says they have an offset of +45. Can anyone confirm this for me.

    If this is the case then my rims should fit his car no problems shouldn't they?

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    GoldCoast
    Posts
    302

    Default

    Hey mate,

    all I can tell you is that they didnt scrub on my lowered 3. No rolling of guards on my car either

  7. #7

    Default

    Cool, thanks Aaron. I can't see them being a problem if the offset of a 6 MPS rim is infact +45.

    So hopefully someone can confirm the stock offset for me before I say they will fit with no problems.

  8. Default

    I did confirm its 52ish

  9. #9

    Default

    52ish?

    I told him it would be stamped on the back on the rim and he said it was +45?

  10. Default

    stock mps6 rim offset is definately not 45, maybe somone else with an MPS6 can back me up on this

    even the stock mps3 rims is not 45, they are they same roughly as each other
    Last edited by blackbetty; 30-12-2010 at 07:52 PM.

  11. #11

    Default

    Yeah no worries. I thought they were over +50 so hopefully someone will confirm for sure. Like I said I don't want to tell him they will fit then find out afterwards that they won't.

    Here is what he told me and why I just want to confirm.
    Yes 7 the width and 45 the offset
    That's what it says at the back of the rim

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Craigieburn
    Age
    50
    Posts
    1,642
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by magoo View Post
    Hey mate,

    all I can tell you is that they didnt scrub on my lowered 3. No rolling of guards on my car either
    Small circumference of 225/35R19 might have saved you there...
    OEM MPS6 wheel offset and size is the same as 3 : 18x7+52.5

    I am VERY confident the MPS does not use a stock +45 offset. I am pretty damn confident telling you that it does not say +45 on the back of an OEM6 wheel. VERY confident. It says 18x7J +52.5 I can't recall is 18x7J is near the offset or is offset embossed somewhere else?
    Last edited by Nexus; 31-12-2010 at 01:44 AM.
    "Blue Meanie" 2007 Aurora Blue MPS 3 - 18x8.5+44 SSR GTX01 - 235/40R18 Michelin PS5 - 3.5" ETS TMIC - CPE stg 2 mount - HKS/CPE BPV - 2XS inlet - 2XS short shift - Corksport turbo manifold - HT 98 octane tune - Leather/Aluminium handbrake - Momo shifty knob - 7" touchscreen - JDM Mazda Retractable dashtop screen assembly - Bespoke Raspberry Pi Android based GPS/Carplay and instrumentation - 36AH reserve battery and C-TEK isolator - TEIN Street Advanced coilovers 1" drop - Superpro bushings - 220Kw/410Nm.

    "Lipstick" 2013 Velocity Red MPS 3 - 18x7.5+48 Enkei RPF1 -225/40R18 Federal RS-RR - CPE TMIC - COBB inlet - CPE stg 2 mount - COBB Stage 1 98 octane tune - COBB shifty knob - 2XS short shift - 2XS turbo manifold.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    GoldCoast
    Posts
    302

    Default

    Not just small Circ of the tyres. I know of someone who ran same rims and tyre combo but with superlow springs (tyres sitting just under guards ) and they didnt scrub either.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Craigieburn
    Age
    50
    Posts
    1,642
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by magoo View Post
    Not just small Circ of the tyres. I know of someone who ran same rims and tyre combo but with superlow springs (tyres sitting just under guards ) and they didnt scrub either.
    I'm 225 wide on 18 at +48 offset and squarer sidewall tyres such as KU-36 will touch. If I fit 235/35R19+48 I'd be sure to have significant rubbing until pushed gaurds back. At 225/35R19+48 I'd expect I might get away with it. If I then fitted either of those at +45 rub city here we come. Very certain. No disrespect, but often people don't push the vehicle enough to uncover circumstance where it rub.

    I know that 215/45R18 on 18x8+48 can rub on a 3. It almost never rubs, but under specific high cornering loads, it can and will. Bearing in mind that's the stock tyre fitment and the wheel it's fitted to is much more conservative than what you're proposing, I think you would be foolish to fit them on the assurance that they'll never rub. I certainly expect that they would. Could be wrong, but don't think so.

    I spent a lot of time measuring things up before I bought mine and what I predict in terms of rubbing is generally correct.

    I still think the smaller diameter is the difference between rubbing and not on this one. Two rub points are not directly above the tyre, but a long way out to either side of the arch. The larger the tyre fitment, the higher the likelyhood and severity of rubs here. 235/35R19 @ +45 - Dead certain that would rub. 225/35R19 @ +45 - just small enough to get by.
    Last edited by Nexus; 31-12-2010 at 11:11 AM.
    "Blue Meanie" 2007 Aurora Blue MPS 3 - 18x8.5+44 SSR GTX01 - 235/40R18 Michelin PS5 - 3.5" ETS TMIC - CPE stg 2 mount - HKS/CPE BPV - 2XS inlet - 2XS short shift - Corksport turbo manifold - HT 98 octane tune - Leather/Aluminium handbrake - Momo shifty knob - 7" touchscreen - JDM Mazda Retractable dashtop screen assembly - Bespoke Raspberry Pi Android based GPS/Carplay and instrumentation - 36AH reserve battery and C-TEK isolator - TEIN Street Advanced coilovers 1" drop - Superpro bushings - 220Kw/410Nm.

    "Lipstick" 2013 Velocity Red MPS 3 - 18x7.5+48 Enkei RPF1 -225/40R18 Federal RS-RR - CPE TMIC - COBB inlet - CPE stg 2 mount - COBB Stage 1 98 octane tune - COBB shifty knob - 2XS short shift - 2XS turbo manifold.

  15. #15

    Default

    Nexus can you say for sure that this is the case for the 6 MPS or are you basing what you are saying on your 3 MPS?

    I also found out why there was confusion on the offset of his rims. He has aftermarket rims with an offset of +45.

    Is there anyone on here with 19's on their 6 MPS?
    Last edited by naddis01; 31-12-2010 at 06:06 PM.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Canberra
    Posts
    9,459

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by naddis01 View Post
    Nexus can you say for sure that this is the case for the 6 MPS or are you basing what you are saying on your 3 MPS?

    I also found out why there was confusion on the offset of his rims. He has aftermarket rims with an offset of +45.

    Is there anyone on here with 19's on their 6 MPS?
    I know one of the Brisbane guys has cx9 rims, think they're 19's
    Newbie FAQ My Build Thread
    From stock, to GT3071, to substantially less modded, many lessons learned!
    3" HTP | 100 Cel DP | Autotech HPFP | AP V3 - Self Tuned on E20 | JBR RSB | CPE S2 REM | JBR Shifter Bushings

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Craigieburn
    Age
    50
    Posts
    1,642
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by naddis01 View Post
    Nexus can you say for sure that this is the case for the 6 MPS or are you basing what you are saying on your 3 MPS?

    I also found out why there was confusion on the offset of his rims. He has aftermarket rims with an offset of +45.

    Is there anyone on here with 19's on their 6 MPS?
    I am basing that on the 3, however the clearances are similar. If you looked at all the different fitments and compared putting them on a 3 and 6, I expect there would be a few fitments that are better on the 6 than the 3 - this could be one of them, but the vast majority that rub on the 3 would rub on the 6. The ones that barely rub on a 3 are those most likely not to rub on 6.

    Drop a plumbline from the inside lip of the gaurd and measure the distance between the plumbline and the closest portion of the sidewall. OEM rims and tyre size. If it's 10mm (maybe a little less) no difference to the 3 in terms of absolute clearance - recommendations between a 6 and 3 would be the same. If it's greater than 10mm, you maybe have a few extra mm to play with but I'm confident that it's a marginal difference.
    "Blue Meanie" 2007 Aurora Blue MPS 3 - 18x8.5+44 SSR GTX01 - 235/40R18 Michelin PS5 - 3.5" ETS TMIC - CPE stg 2 mount - HKS/CPE BPV - 2XS inlet - 2XS short shift - Corksport turbo manifold - HT 98 octane tune - Leather/Aluminium handbrake - Momo shifty knob - 7" touchscreen - JDM Mazda Retractable dashtop screen assembly - Bespoke Raspberry Pi Android based GPS/Carplay and instrumentation - 36AH reserve battery and C-TEK isolator - TEIN Street Advanced coilovers 1" drop - Superpro bushings - 220Kw/410Nm.

    "Lipstick" 2013 Velocity Red MPS 3 - 18x7.5+48 Enkei RPF1 -225/40R18 Federal RS-RR - CPE TMIC - COBB inlet - CPE stg 2 mount - COBB Stage 1 98 octane tune - COBB shifty knob - 2XS short shift - 2XS turbo manifold.

  18. #18

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by naddis01 View Post
    Nexus can you say for sure that this is the case for the 6 MPS or are you basing what you are saying on your 3 MPS?

    I also found out why there was confusion on the offset of his rims. He has aftermarket rims with an offset of +45.

    Is there anyone on here with 19's on their 6 MPS?
    Todd has 20" CX-9 rims on his 6MPS...so maybe contact him and ask about rub on guards.

    Send a PM to 12Lead

    Also...both 3 and 6 MPS have 18 x 7J with 52.5 offset running 215/45 R18 tyres.

    Happy Motoring
    duglet

  19. #19

    Default

    What offset do the CX9 rims run? 52.5 as well?

  20. #20

    Default

    I have the same sized rims and offset etc running 235/35/19 on my MPS6. Its not lowered, stock as all hell. The fronts won't need rolling but the rears will most definitely. Under power, my 19's would scrub big time and don't even mention having people in the back...I got Nelson from Sydney Guard Rolling to roll my guards and the scrubbing immediately went away. Best $100 I've ever spent.

    Also, the MPS6's do run a space saver spare tyre.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •