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    Hi Guys

    This is one new product that you won't know about (because it's not listed on our website) and is specifically for those who prefer a "set and forget" type of car care product rather than the enjoyment of waxing and polishing your car.

    Opti-Coat is not a sealant or a wax. It is not a "paint protection" product. In fact we are trying to keep it away from that dodgy market. It is an aftermarket clear coat that is applied to restore and/or protect the factory clear coat indefinately. When I say indefinately, that means just like the factory paint, it will not delaminate if applied correctly by the professional.

    Here are some important points about Opti-Coat.

    1. Compared to factory clear coat, Opti-Coat has far superior resistance to chemical attacks
    2. Compared to factory clear coat, fully cured Opti-Coat is much harder and resistant to marring (9 on Mohs scale of hardness)
    3. Compared to factory clear coat, Opti-Coat releases dirt and oil much easier producing an "easy clean" effect.
    4. Compared to these BS paint protection sealants Opti-Coat will not wash off or degrade over time.

    We are in the process of establishing a network of professionals around Australia to apply this product. Anyone who is in the market for "paint protection" should seriously consider discussing their options with me first.

    Cheers

    Joel
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    Hi Joel, as one of those people who went for the (rightfully named) bullshit I'm keen to hear more.

    When I bought the car I was of the understanding that the dealer would contract a professional to do my "paint protection". But alas it turned out to be the dealers "Aftermarket Specialist", the woman who sold me the product, who applied it. Gutted.

    I wash my car every weekend but don't have to time to wax as well so this would suit.

    What is the finish like?
    What costs are we looking at?
    Who would back the warranty?
    Would it be as shiny as Dans car?
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    Hi Brad

    The finish is as good as the surface you apply it to. So for a car that isn't straight off the showroom floor the process would be machine polishing until the paint is back to perfect (on average this removes about 2 microns of clear). You then apply the Opti-Coat which funnily enough is 2 microns thick.

    What you now have at this stage is a perfect clear coat that behaves like a wax or sealant (strong water beading, easy clean) but to get it looking like Dan's all you would use Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer with your wash. When washing, before you dry your car you spray it on, and then dry. It will give you that little bit extra in the paint that you have obviously seen with Dan's car. Without it, your car will still look better than it did the day you bought it.

    Costs and Warranty - As this is still in the development stages I will PM you.

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    Hi Zas, i'm also interested in this product.

    Can i get some additional info as well regarding costs and warranty.

    I've also got a few paint chips from daily motorway driving. Is this going to affect the application?


    Thanks.

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    Hi There

    The reason I PM'ed about costs and warranty is particularly because of the warranty I don't want to start ranting about these paint protection warranties and that they aren't worth the paper they are written on.

    The warranty we are looking at will be against poor workmanship and premature failure of the clear coat. What we won't be entering into is warranty against bird poo, and things like that. As it is absolute crap what some people get told about this.

    The Opti-Coat will protect against these types of environmental impacts. But only for so long. If you wash your car regularly and remove bird poo when you can, then you'll have no problem. Some people don't wash their car at all though, so this is a road I don't want to go down. Basically we won't be providing a warranty against variables we can't control.

    The chips won't be an issue, but if you want them fixed you'll need to do it before the coating is applied.

    Price wise you will be looking at under $500 for the application of the coating and the warranty. This isn't set in stone yet and is to give you a guide, and don't forget for cars that have seen road use you need to factor in preperation.

    ---------- Post added at 04:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:40 PM ----------

    Here's something else you might find interesting to show what this product is all about. Below is a test carried out in the USA on a car with complete clear coat failure. Part of the panel was machined and the Opti-Coat applied to test if it would act as a new clear coat.

    This was only over one month, so I intend to do some long term testing myself over the next year, but I'll let the images tell the story.

    BEFORE



    AFTER



    50/50





    And after one month, it is still the same


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    Hey Joel I'd be interested too mate, can you let me know when you find someone in Perth

    Also I am considering getting a Ventureshield type of product for the front end, do you how would this product interact with that?

    Thanks Joel
    Chris


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    Hi Chris

    We do have someone in Perth currently testing the coating. As soon as I get all this finalised with him, I'll put you in contact. He is a highly skilled detailer and you will get a very good job.

    Regarding the ventureshield, the Opti-Coat wil most likely cause you problems. Once the Opti-Coat starts to dry, you can't even reapply it over itself as it just causes the coating to bead! What I will have to do though is check with the chemist from Optimum.

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    That's a good point. I have the Duco Scratch Film on my car as well. Clear Car Bra - Paint Protection Film for Car or Bike

    I made the decision to put this over my whole bonnet and bumper. I don't regret it, I'm stone chip free after 12 months and a trip to Emerald, but I suspect it won't be as shiny as the Opti Coat...Never mind...I still need shiny!

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    Hi guys

    For those who are interested in the Opti-Coat clear coat, we have a number of different professionals in possession of this product in a number of states (NSW, VIC, SA, QLD, WA).

    Warranty etc. is still in process, but if you are interested in having the coating applied but not necessarily interested in the additional purchase of a warranty, PM me your location and I will put you in contact with an applicator.

    Here is a little video to show the affect Optimum clear coat has compared to factory clear.


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    Hey Everyone,

    Did abit of googling and stumbled upon a awesome extensive review performed on a brand new car that was constantly washed with dishwashing liquid over 6 months.

    Take a look, i was definitely impressed!

    Optimum Opti-Coat Test

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    Reading that awesome link from Sp23Ho the reviewer applied Optimax to every part of the car, wheels, glass etc. Can I presume it will be the same system?

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    Hi Brad

    The Opti-Coat can be applied to all parts of the car. Just really depends how much you want to spend. The base price for application is just for painted areas. You will then be able to choose additional parts of the car like:

    • All plastic trim
    • All glass
    • Wheels


    Out of those 3 wheels will be the most expensive. The detailer will have to take each one off, clean them and then Opti-Coat them. Glass and plastics will only be a small extra based on time and cost of extra product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZAS View Post
    Hi Brad

    The Opti-Coat can be applied to all parts of the car. Just really depends how much you want to spend. The base price for application is just for painted areas. You will then be able to choose additional parts of the car like:

    • All plastic trim
    • All glass
    • Wheels


    Out of those 3 wheels will be the most expensive. The detailer will have to take each one off, clean them and then Opti-Coat them. Glass and plastics will only be a small extra based on time and cost of extra product.
    The wheels are the hardest to clean regularly so i would be keen for that. Am I wrong in saying that after its applied, all I have to do is hose down the wheel and all the brake dust comes off? Or do I still need to brush/wipe/dry them?
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    Really depends how dirty you let them get. If you let the brake dust cake on for weeks and weeks it will take a good high pressure hose to clean them. The difference is though that it won't bake onto the wheel and need scrubbing to remove. It will just wipe off.

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    Hi Guys

    You can now find our growing list of dealers at this webpage Optimum Car Care Products : Approved Dealers

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZAS View Post
    Hi Guys

    You can now find our growing list of dealers at this webpage Optimum Car Care Products : Approved Dealers
    Dropped info Red Line Car Carr today. Had a good chat. Tentative booking for Tuesday. Will do wheels as well as paint. They're just checking to make sure there will be no issue with the protection film.
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    I spoke with Dr Ghodoussi today mate. The Opti-Coat is quite often applied over the protection film and he said it will protect the film just the same as it does everything else. The only thing I am waiting to find out is if it needs to be applied any differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZAS View Post
    I spoke with Dr Ghodoussi today mate. The Opti-Coat is quite often applied over the protection film and he said it will protect the film just the same as it does everything else. The only thing I am waiting to find out is if it needs to be applied any differently.
    Sounds like a Rocket Scientist!
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    Ok, so I got the Opti-coat applied today by Kim and the boys at Redline Car Care http://www.redlinecarcare.com.au/

    I got the wheels and full paint done. I picked the car up after sunset so haven't seen it in full light yet, but under the servo fluros it looked better than new. While I was filling up I had a couple of people take a long hard look at it. It does look great even in low light.

    At some of you know I had trouble getting my Speedy wheels off due to the lock nut security key breaking. The idea was to load them into a trailer I hired for 24hrs, put the stockies back on so they could clean and apply the Opti-coat to the Speedy's while still working on the car. It definitely saved time and gave Kim the best chance possible to finish the wheels properly. Now they have several coats and feel very smooth. I'm hoping the claims stand true and I have easy cleaning wheels.

    I also bought some additional support products to try and match the Guru of Shine. See what the Postie thinks of my new bling next time.

    Kim offered me some good discounts and threw in some other stuff as well. All round, really great service and seems to have been in the industry long enough know a decent product.

    Hopefully it's a sunny day tomorrow and some photos on the weekend. The trial begins now.

    Price wise I suggest calling Kim or Joel direct. I'm very happy with the cost. It was as quoted. I did spend extra on the additional shine and wax products.
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    Good to see someone have this product applied. Let us know how it goes.

    I wanted to apply it too!

    But unfortunately a rock off the motorway flung up onto my bonnet and left two 1cm scratches on my bonnet

    Will see what i can do to make it less obvious before looking at optiseal

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