Ecutek and COBB tune

[PremHK]

HPF do Gen 2's.

[Jmac]

Daz, you can now get the mazedit software and run it on your lap top in ur car if you want, and I heard it covers over 60 or so parametres. Now you can see and do everything an AP can do, inc 0-100, qtr mile etc...

You always could.. Do you know anything about the solution or are you just giving hpf a plug?

Fyi you might need to do some more reading but a tactrix cable is also required. Its $169
http://www.tactrix.com/index.php?pag...&Itemid=53

Do your research first. The AP is much more flexible than mazda edit.
The software is also $250 assuming hpf do not look their tunes
http://www.epifansoft.com/mazdaEdit-...ns-prices.html
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[PremHK]

i got no idea with all the IT jargon.. heard from someone else that they can see and set parametres with their mazedit, after you said a mazedit couldn't do all that, ie, 0-100, temps, etc... So its because of what you said that I beleived there was no software available to the owner of the vehicle.. there seems to be a trend with ppl who run AP thinking they are experienced tuners just because they know a little about IT lol.

[Jmac]

i got no idea with all the IT jargon.. heard from someone else that they can see and set parametres with their mazedit, after you said a mazedit couldn't do all that, ie, 0-100, temps, etc... So its because of what you said that I beleived there was no software available to the owner of the vehicle.. there seems to be a trend with ppl who run AP thinking they are experienced tuners just because they know a little about IT lol.

does any of that have to do with IT. You don't make any sense. If you don't know what you are talking about then stop posting rubbish.

Hpf tune with Mazdaedit software posted above. You get a single tune on your car that is it. If you want to log etc you need a tactrix cable and software license at $419 usd. Plus $795 for the base tune.

Without the cable, laptop and license you cannot have multiple tunes, data log, run live gauges etc. You do not get launch control or flat foot shifting. It is inferior in terms of what can be achieved in comparison to cobbs pure boost based maps.

Mazdaedit does not have the amount of development and market backing that cobb does.

A AccessPort costs 600 usd and then you can take it to your desired dyno OR etuner for a custom tune for high and low boost and e85 then change at will.

Average Joe does NOT need to data log or fiddle. You are on a forum. We are fiddlers. We are modders, I like to know what is going on.

Your ill informed posts will be removed in future.

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[SarcasticOne]

does any of that have to do with IT. You don't make any sense. If you don't know what you are talking about then stop posting rubbish.

Hpf tune with Mazdaedit software posted above. You get a single tune on your car that is it. If you want to log etc you need a tactrix cable and software license at $419 usd. Plus $795 for the base tune.

Without the cable, laptop and license you cannot have multiple tunes, data log, run live gauges etc. You do not get launch control or flat foot shifting. It is inferior in terms of what can be achieved in comparison to cobbs pure boost based maps.

Mazdaedit does not have the amount of development and market backing that cobb does.

A AccessPort costs 600 usd and then you can take it to your desired dyno OR etuner for a custom tune for high and low boost and e85 then change at will.

Average Joe does NOT need to data log or fiddle. You are on a forum. We are fiddlers. We are modders, I like to know what is going on.

Your ill informed posts will be removed in future.

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God damn @Fats getting in first cause I think I could marry you right now

[PremHK]

I think i need to copy and paste quotes from cobb ap tuners ie tim from rx8specialties and richierichness their comments on how mazedit is a superior way to tune over the etuning option again....
ps- I dont need launch control or flat foot shifting lol
pss- Now shut up and make babies already and stop letting me get up ur skin lol

[dazza]

Yeah Alex stop baiting those who still have an ap :P

[SarcasticOne]

I think i need to copy and paste quotes from cobb ap tuners ie tim from rx8specialties and richierichness their comments on how mazedit is a superior way to tune over the etuning option again....
ps- I dont need launch control or flat foot shifting lol
pss- Now shut up and make babies already and stop letting me get up ur skin lol

@richierichness @Dantes5823

[Jmac]

I think i need to copy and paste quotes from cobb ap tuners ie tim from rx8specialties and richierichness their comments on how mazedit is a superior way to tune over the etuning option again....
ps- I dont need launch control or flat foot shifting lol
pss- Now shut up and make babies already and stop letting me get up ur skin lol

Read buddy. Who said you had to etune with AP? Tim prefers the AP anyway.. I've spoken to him about it...

You are confused between a tuning package and a method of tuning. You can take an AP and get a dyno tune here, on a dyno, on a dyno, on a dyno.. Dyno. Dyno.
Clear enough?
Oh and you don't pay extra for the software. Its included.

Fail.

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[Jmac]

@RX8 Specialties

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[richierichness]

Cobb AP is what the fastest MPS and Mazdaspeed cars in the World are using and have been using for years. This is because the price/support is great. In fact I just broke the stock tubro MPS/Mazdaspeed world record this weekend. I ran a 12.263 @ 111.75 mph. The absolute fastest MPS/Mazdaspeed car is owned by Superskaterxes from MSF....he is also running the AP. His GTX35R runs 11.30 @ 126 mph.

IMO your best bet is to get an AP and get e-tuned. However, my opinion is a little bias considering I am one of those e-tuners. I invite you to do your research and see how much better of an investment the Cobb AP is.


The AP as it has stood the test of time with multiple platforms. BTW the AP has over 180 parameters.

[PremHK]

What goes on in the States doesnt have any relevance to the mps models here in Aus. Too many variables. Our fuel is terrible and wont respond to your etunes as well as your own cars on US fuel. Thats a fact and non debateable. I am yet to see a quick cobb ap car in Aus. Do you think its possible for an mps(in Oz) to run in the 12's with stock turbo, zorst and cooler and only 170kw? Just a question..

[dazza]

Driver mod?

[PremHK]

lol if its driver mod, then why did the most experienced race car drivers that tested the 2 mps's with over 200kw run low 14's lol otherwise ur saying im Ayrton Senna.

[PremHK]

Cobb AP is what the fastest MPS and Mazdaspeed cars in the World are using and have been using for years. This is because the price/support is great. In fact I just broke the stock tubro MPS/Mazdaspeed world record this weekend. I ran a 12.263 @ 111.75 mph. The absolute fastest MPS/Mazdaspeed car is owned by Superskaterxes from MSF....he is also running the AP. His GTX35R runs 11.30 @ 126 mph.

IMO your best bet is to get an AP and get e-tuned. However, my opinion is a little bias considering I am one of those e-tuners. I invite you to do your research and see how much better of an investment the Cobb AP is.


The AP as it has stood the test of time with multiple platforms. BTW the AP has over 180 parameters.

I thought Pat from Ukraine did a 10.9? Personal software.

[Jmac]

What goes on in the States doesnt have any relevance to the mps models here in Aus. Too many variables. Our fuel is terrible and wont respond to your etunes as well as your own cars on US fuel. Thats a fact and non debateable. I am yet to see a quick cobb ap car in Aus. Do you think its possible for an mps(in Oz) to run in the 12's with stock turbo, zorst and cooler and only 170kw? Just a question..

It sort of does.. Not directly for times but they have had more options available for longer.

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[PremHK]

Options dont mean u will go quicker or have a faster mps..... thats the aim of modding isnt it?

[Jmac]

Options dont mean u will go quicker or have a faster mps..... thats the aim of modding isnt it?

OMG. Seriously. All you do us contradict yourself. You just hit through saying the other day power is not everything.

I will chose the option that has the most features, most industry backing, great vendor support, the product the most people have used and have had the most experience with, the one that yields the best results.

You have been comparing Mazdaedit as a custom tune to ap ots maps until now.

Most ap owners have not gone balls out yet as they are using the generic maps. Have a look at Sams output and tell me it doesn't work.

You can have custom dyno tunes done at any workshop you choose with an AP.
Then you compare dyno tunes to etuning. You can do either with the AP.

One is a method, one is a software package. As a package AccessPort shits all over the older, outclassed Mazdaedit in terms of features, support, value and the inclusion of the hand held unit.

Do some reading and stop leading people astray. Its not a joke when people take some of the things you write in jest as gospel.

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[dazza]

Not many workshops will dyno tune with the AP at this stage as far as I was aware, there are 2 I know of in Melbourne but neither are dedicated to tuning the MPS platform, e-tuning would still be preferable at this stage.
I still agree with the others the AP is far better value, e-tuning is great if you've got the time to do it.
Nothing wrong with a mazedit tune, obviously you don't get a handheld after it but what you lose in regard to that you gain in convenience of the tune I guess. All depends what people want.

[PremHK]

justin, i have only ever spoken about 'etuning' being inferior to a proper dyno tune ie mazedit. And I have said many time, when ap have experienced dyno tuners in this country, i will make the switch, have i not?? Now stop plugging the vendors you get money from for your site lmao. Might ask hpf to become vendors......lol
ps- best way to test, once we have a mps 3 with stock turbo cobb ap tune with similar mods to mine, one person to drive both and say which feels better. Debate closed!