Originally Posted by
SarcasticOne
It's not quite what you think, the DISI engine in our cars have a heap of weird ECU quirks, many of which are encountered only under certain conditions.... (recent load cap V2 being a big one, which required manipulation of DBW tables)
MSF has shown consistently that their e-tuners, who focus solely on our engines, will often get smoother results, more power and torque, than "professional" workshops...
Hell, even Cobb themselves throw out predictable results when someone goes to their workshops with xyz mods.
MSF vendors don't get to either
If they screw up the community, they get their "couch f*cked"
We're far more lenient than they are
Im not denying the fact its complicated.
All I am saying is these guys do it for a living, its a motor, they all have their quirks, they deal with it on a day to day basis. Yeah ATR may look big and scary but so does the inside of a server when ive had to diagnose a fault, or the back of a comms rack that some arsehole has not labelled etc etc. Neither of us are tuners .
I dont believe this car is any harder or easier than another to tune, its more so the fact that it does not have a history... We aint running the only DI mill on the block either.
Not entirely sure I believe many of the dyno numbers from the states, most of the graphs I have seen have been exaggerated.
Originally Posted by
richierichness
Jmac,
Not my intention to be condescending. I apologize to Tim if it came across that way.
SarcasticOne,
You are correct. It’s important for the community to know how difficult it can be to learn this platform. Some of us e-tuners work directly with Cobb to resolve these issues. Most recently the WGDC targeting issue for some Gen 2 cars when over 80% IDC. In addition the boost and load tuning logic has become more accurate. We are currently pushing Cobb to come up with an Anti-Lag launch control option opposed to the current two step configuration (for BT cars so they can build more boost).
You are also correct about the vendors. I am a vendor on MSF and as of today will be one here. We have to follow rules just like everyone else. The vendors that **** over people on MSF get crusified and don't last long...as I hope they would here.
All good, its a different state of mind over here!
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