Track Time Comparison

[MPS190]

Hey guys,

Just wondering if anyone had or knew where to get hold of some track time information for the Mazda 3 MPS.

I would be particularly interested to see how it fares on track against the usual suspects like WRX, XR5T, Lancer, etc but also I would LOVE to see how it competes (on track) against the Falcon and Commodore "performance" models.

Thanks,

MPS190.

[MPS190]

Well...not quite what I was looking for but I found this;

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[TD]Ford Focus RS 500[/TD]

[TD]1.30.8 (w)[/TD]

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[TR="class: first-row"]

[TD]Audi S4[/TD]

[TD]1.30.9[/TD]

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[TD]Porsche 911 Turbo[/TD]

[TD]1.31.0[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR="class: first-row"]

[TD]BMW 760Li[/TD]

[TD]1.31.2[/TD]

[/TR]

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[TD]Vauxhall VX220 turbo[/TD]

[TD]1.31.3[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR="class: first-row"]

[TD]Vauxhall VXR8[/TD]

[TD]1.31.3[/TD]

[/TR]

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[TD]New Audi TT[/TD]

[TD]1.31.4[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR="class: first-row"]

[TD]Honda NSX Type R[/TD]

[TD]1.31.6[/TD]

[/TR]

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[TD]BMW M3[/TD]

[TD]1.31.8[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR="class: first-row"]

[TD]Nissan 350Z[/TD]

[TD]1.31.8[/TD]

[/TR]

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[TD]Mazda RX-8[/TD]

[TD]1.31.8[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR="class: first-row"]

[TD]BMW 535d[/TD]

[TD]1.31.8[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]BMW 130[/TD]

[TD]1.31.9[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR="class: first-row"]

[TD]Mercedes S63 AMG[/TD]

[TD]1.32.0[/TD]

[/TR]

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[TD]Ford Focus RS[/TD]

[TD]1.32.2[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR="class: first-row"]

[TD]Mazda 6 MPS[/TD]

[TD]1.32.2[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Lotus Esprit V8[/TD]

[TD]1.32.5[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR="class: first-row"]

[TD]Audi TT V6[/TD]

[TD]1.32.7[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]MG ZT[/TD]

[TD]1.33.0[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR="class: first-row"]

[TD]Noble M12 GTO[/TD]

[TD]1.33.1[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Mercedes SL 55 AMG[/TD]

[TD]1.33.2[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR="class: first-row"]

[TD]Volkswagen Golf R32[/TD]

[TD]1.33.2[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Audi Q7 V12 TDI[/TD]

[TD]1.33.2[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR="class: first-row"]

[TD]Cadillac CTS[/TD]

[TD]1.33.3[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Honda Civic Type-R[/TD]

[TD]1.33.5[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR="class: first-row"]

[TD]Holden Monaro[/TD]

[TD]1.33.9[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Ford Mondeo ST220[/TD]

[TD]1.34.5[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR="class: first-row"]

[TD]Jaguar XKR[/TD]

[TD]1.34.7[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Ford Focus ST[/TD]

[TD]1.34.9[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR="class: first-row"]

[TD]Volvo S60R[/TD]

[TD]1.35.0[/TD]

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[TR]

[TD]Ferrari 575M[/TD]

[TD]1.35.2 Full list can be seen here; BBC - Top Gear - Power Laps

C'mon guys - surely there's some info on where the MPS 3 sits in regards to lap times v other manufactures, same circuit. [/TD]

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---------- Post added at 09:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:46 PM ----------

Wow... ^ that turned out terrible... lol

[Reedy]

From my experience, it depends more on what's been done to the car and who is driving it than how the car came from the factory. But assuming stock v stock I would say something like:

EVO > Focus RS > WRX = MPS > GTI > XR5 = XR6 Turbo > SS V8

For example, my car is comfortably faster than stock WRX's at the track days I go to but I have modded mine a little bit. Similar thing can be said for all these cars. The XR5 is one car that has a very cheap front diff, but one of the first mods that their owners get is a proper LSD upgrade, that alone will put them on basically the same level as the MPS.

As for top gear power laps, it depends on the track you're talking about but the Rx8 and MPS run comparable times around tight courses. The top gear test track is a power track tho, and for that reason I would probably assume the MPS is about half a second faster than the Rx8 as an educated guess.

It would be great if TopGear acknowleged the existence of the 3 MPS. I'd love to see them do a Focus ST vs GTI vs MPS vs Megane shootout =)

[bd581]

Somewhere in internet land there is quite possibly of an artical either Wheels or Motor did comparing many cars including both the 6 and 3 on the track.
I can not for the life of me remember the results.
But it might be worth searching for.

There was also the resent-ish hot hatch shootout. The MPS did not fair well.

[Reedy]

Somewhere in internet land there is quite possibly of an artical either Wheels or Motor did comparing many cars including both the 6 and 3 on the track.
I can not for the life of me remember the results.
But it might be worth searching for.

There was also the resent-ish hot hatch shootout. The MPS did not fair well.

That motor mag thing was a tuner challenge, the Golf that competed had about $30 000 worth of work done to it and was running semi slicks, the MPS had basic mods and shit street tyres. It didn't have a chance.

[bd581]

Not that one.
One I'm thinking of was all stock cars, including wrx, civic type r, focus rs, Megane, mini, Citroën, VW golf gti, r and polo gti

[Reedy]

Ooh I'd like to see this! We must find it!

[SlowMPS]

Its the wheels hot hatch shootout. March edition.

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[MPS190]

Found this; https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...QNnlHS1E#gid=0


Interesting little spreadsheet on Wakefield Park lap times as per Motor Mag.

[bd581]

Same track, same timing equipment, same testing rules, mostly the same driver. That's about the most fair comparison I've seen.
Good find

[RedDjinn]

Look at where the R35 GTR sits... DAMN!

Whats the Aussie race car?

[Reedy]

Aussie race car = miniature car with a motorbike engine. Tiny little thing that looks like a mini falcon or retro car.