Mps?

Hey all, another new member here.

At the moment I'm driving a regular 2003 mazda6 lux sports, and whilst I'm very happy with.... It's too slow! :rolleyes:
Handlingwise, for a family sedan, I'm quite happy with it, but overtaking is another issue! To make things worse, mum brought home a new golf R yesterday, and after having a drive of that, my mazda feels like my old corolla!
So I'm thinking an MPS6 would meet the requirements quite nicely, all I have to do is stump up the cash :eeksign:
As a uni student, it will probably be a fair few months before I can get one, but I may as well start looking into them now.
The only disadvantage I can think of is looks - the m6 hatch is better looking than the sedan IMHO.

Here's what I'm driving at the moment (stock, I don't think there's any point modding it)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5307/...51b3485c28.jpg

Yeah, get an MPS! Welcome to the club mate! I upgraded from a Luxury Sport.

Looks a disadvantage.....not sure I get you there :whistle:
Sedan is way better for looks, then again that's my opinion :p

From what I can see, if you repaint or replace the stocko rims, looks improve enormously... Let's leave it at that :p

Yeh for sure get an MPS6 and paint or replace the shocker stock rims as soon as you can :p

Theres a white one for sale in the dealer next to Golf at Belconnen, been there since aug last year and also about the same price, so might be a bargain to be had there :D

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Originally Posted by blackbetty

Yeh for sure get an MPS6 and paint or replace the shocker stock rims as soon as you can :p

Theres a white one for sale in the dealer next to Golf at Belconnen, been there since aug last year and also about the same price, so might be a bargain to be had there :D

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I would love to but the yellow mazda isn't that old and I just don't have the coin at the moment. I just took out comprehensive on it as well, and let me assure you, for an 18 year old male with 1 year of driving behind him and no previous insurance history, it is not cheap :norty:
As soon as I've saved up some more (before the year is out I'm hoping), then an mps will be mine :D :D :D

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Mel, you need to take this young lad for a drive in your :emo: MPS6...!

You're 18?

I'm gonna go against the grain. Keep what you have now for a few years, seriously. It's a good thing, and lack of fasts isn't bad while you're still an inexperienced driver. As you discovered insurance costs $$$. Try getting a quote for a 6 MPS...

true that Im 39 have maximum no claim bonus and my insurance is $1k and its not like I live in sydney or anything ... wise TD :D

18yo in an MPS sounds scary and therefore possibly illegal

hmmm, dont think you can drive a turbocharged car like the MPS until you are on your open licence forgot, ACT is a bit more relaxed about such things :) there are a few p-platers here with them... just don't get a red one :LOL: the last p-plater driving a red 6mps has a corner "officially" named after him in the ACT
and yeah, insurance is scary enough for me (23 yr old) hate to think what it would be for a 18yr old :marg:

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http://www.ozmpsclub.com/forum/off-t...tml#post157495 <-- take note, stock red 6 mps cannot keep up with modified rx8 through corners

:eeksign: Whereabouts is that? And are you suggesting an RX-8 instead then?

To everyone else, yes it's a fast car, I'm a P plater etc. But I'd rather get an MPS than some dodgy engine swapped skyline or silva like others I know have. I will be getting something faster, you're not going to dissuade me from that :D
Insurancewise, it will be about $300 a year more than my current car... But the extra NCB I will have by then will make up for it :p

If it makes you feel any better, I have completed one defensive driving course, with another to come in the next month or so. (I realise this does not give me the right to hoon on public roads, be invincible, etc, just saying so)

Right after my motorcycle crash my insurance wanted 6K to insure another bike! I'm now paying around 2K (give or take) total a year which includes a 06 MPS 6 roughly $1000 and a Honda CBR600RR roughly $1000. +1 for gaining experience before getting a vehicle that is quick. The rule goes for motorcycles here in WA but pollies are too dumb to bring it in for P platers and V8's etc.

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Originally Posted by 651221

:eeksign: Whereabouts is that? And are you suggesting an RX-8 instead then?

To everyone else, yes it's a fast car, I'm a P plater etc. But I'd rather get an MPS than some dodgy engine swapped skyline or silva like others I know have. I will be getting something faster, you're not going to dissuade me from that :D
Insurancewise, it will be about $300 a year more than my current car... But the extra NCB I will have by then will make up for it :p

If it makes you feel any better, I have completed one defensive driving course, with another to come in the next month or so. (I realise this does not give me the right to hoon on public roads, be invincible, etc, just saying so)

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To be sure a 6MPS is a better and potentially safer prospect than a grey imported Skyline or Silvia that you don't know the history behind (cheap mods etc). Definitely with you on your reasoning there.

In actuality, maybe do have a look at the RX8 if it's in your budget. It's not as quick in a straight line as the MPS, but even in stock trim it'll out manoeuvre an MPS with ease

I think more the issue is that I am unsure if any insurer will take on board an 18 year old who owns a turbo car.

I know alot of them now have a clause for under 25's with hi-po cars.

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Originally Posted by 651221

:eeksign: Whereabouts is that? And are you suggesting an RX-8 instead then?

To everyone else, yes it's a fast car, I'm a P plater etc. But I'd rather get an MPS than some dodgy engine swapped skyline or silva like others I know have. I will be getting something faster, you're not going to dissuade me from that :D
Insurancewise, it will be about $300 a year more than my current car... But the extra NCB I will have by then will make up for it :p

If it makes you feel any better, I have completed one defensive driving course, with another to come in the next month or so. (I realise this does not give me the right to hoon on public roads, be invincible, etc, just saying so)

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Indulge me, get an insurance quote for one, no piggybacking off parents policy allowed :) Post the results here.

I used my old address in the ACT to get a sample quote (Kingston), said I was a good 18 year old with no finance and no traffic history insuring a $25,000 standard 6 MPS with no mods and got quoted $3,002...

Only reason I'm questioning the fast car choice is I've been there and done that as a teenager and spent quite a few years through my 20's getting my bank account to a place where it should have been, $2500+ of fully comp insurance per year as a 19 year old didn't help. There were MUCH better things I could have been spending my money on, I should have bought a $2500 car to be honest... I was earning good money then too, not at uni.

I probably sound like an old fart...but I'm just throwing a point of view out there, albiet not popular with you.

Good luck whatever you do.

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Originally Posted by Caffeine Fiend

To be sure a 6MPS is a better and potentially safer prospect than a grey imported Skyline or Silvia that you don't know the history behind (cheap mods etc). Definitely with you on your reasoning there.

In actuality, maybe do have a look at the RX8 if it's in your budget. It's not as quick in a straight line as the MPS, but even in stock trim it'll out manoeuvre an MPS with ease

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I'm considering an RX-8, along with an MPS, and also a renaultsport clio/megane. The only thing that put me off was the fuel consumption, especially considering the performance.

@TD, I'm already paying ~$2300 a year with a relatively sedate car, I had a shitbox before that and this is infinitely better and more enjoyable. I don't plan on going back, and for what, less than $1 a day extra (in insurance) per year, obviously not including purchase price, I could be in an MPS. I do see where everyone is coming from with the lack of experience issue... but I'm a stubborn teenager
18 year old male, 1 previous incident (not at fault), licence since 17, other nrma motoring membership, 2006 MPS6 Leather, $1400 Excess (like I have now), no finance, private use only etc etc

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$2300 for a standard 6? Wow...I'm gobsmacked. That's ridiculous. In that case, if you're happy to spend the ca$h fill your boots.

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Originally Posted by TD

$2300 for a standard 6? Wow...I'm gobsmacked. That's ridiculous. In that case, if you're happy to spend the ca$h fill your boots.

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Ridiculous, I know, and I shopped around. Moneywise, I can't think of anything I would rather spend it on... Something I enjoy, use everyday, and can admire. So it's either that or my mountain bike...
Also I don't have a girlfriend LMAO

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Originally Posted by 651221

Something I enjoy, use everyday, and can admire. So it's either that or my mountain bike...
Also I don't have a girlfriend LMAO

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These are much more fun and will cost as much as an MPS... :whistle:

At 18 I know what I'd be picking and it's not the car... :headbang:

Okay.. So here is my story. By the way also from the ACT.

I have a 6 classic hatch. My first car I had insured myself. When I got it I was 22 had my license for a year, no clams no crashes. For full compo it was $2.4k. Go figure that.. When at that stage it was only $3.8k for a MPS. I went the 6 hatch as I needed the big boot for moving amps and guitars around. Was more then fast enough, could even match Lynchy in his MPS3 off the lights as they are so easy to launch well.

After a year I did what you are doing now. I went I want faster. So I started looking and ended out getting a MPS3. Insurance was now down to $2.5k a year. So not too bad. How ever... There is a BIG price difference in running one of these. I went from almost 700ks a tank to 450ks. Really starts to add up quickly.. Then on top of that chews brakes and tyers quicker (depending on driving of course). Then comes the other parts of it, people try to push you more as they know you have a quick car. By push I mean drive in your boot to hurry you along. Also there is not many times you can legally use all the power of the car. Which is a big downer.

But all that aside. It is not just insurance that you have to worry about. There is other running costs. Along with what TD has been saying. I started this at 22 after buying and owning a LS integra beforehand. Looking back (is now only 24) All the money that was wasted on the cars should of been better used. For example I could of actually had a house deposit and could of been a home owner. But now just a few years later after the cars I can now no longer buy a house by myself and will be stuck waiting for a while to get some form of deposit up.

However all that said, your life your choice. If you want the MPS6 go for it. But they will still be around in a few more years.. Times I regret how I did things, other times I love it. I figure you might as well live it while you can.

And if you do end out going for the MPS6 then will have to come out for a cruise, in fact you should come out for the cruises anyway. I took my hatch to a cruise and had loads of fun.

Oh and also no issue with a turbo car on P's here in the ACT. Seen some silly cars driven by P platers around here.... for those that were wondering. Spoken from a P plater driving a MPS3

And I have to add - if you want a fast car to get girls and be cool, don't...Women don't care about cars. (generally)

The best woman I've ever met in my life is the one I'm dating now, she likes the floormats and that my car is clean...so if you're trying to impress the ladies then a car is a definite fail, have learnt from experience.

Dunno about you but when I was 18 I wasn't lusting after cars :randy:

$2500 a year in insurance payments converted to money in your pocket can make significant progress to a hell of a lot of fun as a young bloke...just saying :D

@rfzd Thankyou for that, tbh I hadn't really considered extra running costs, and it is something to think about.

@TD I wouldn't have thought an MPS would be the type of car to get girls anyway?? Not enough chrome haha :p
You say that $2500 is a lot of fun, but I think I would rather spend it on a nice car than just waste it away partying, that seems more sensible to me :whistle:

But you lot have definitely given me some things to consider, and not really what I would have expected on an MPS forum, but your honesty is appreciated.

Hey at least you are smart about it! Saying that $2500 is better spent on something of use (ie car) then huge weekend parties. Good man!

If your able to come out to the BBQ on the 3rd of April have a chat to some of the MPS6 owners, see how much running it costs them as that will help muchly

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Hey at least you are smart about it! Saying that $2500 is better spent on something of use (ie car) then huge weekend parties. Good man!

If your able to come out to the BBQ on the 3rd of April have a chat to some of the MPS6 owners, see how much running it costs them as that will help muchly

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I would but I'll be at work... paying for my insurance :p:p

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Originally Posted by LittleredMPS

I think more the issue is that I am unsure if any insurer will take on board an 18 year old who owns a turbo car.

I know alot of them now have a clause for under 25's with hi-po cars.

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On that note, I myself had trouble getting insurance with a few of them companies (just wouldnt even quote) despite being 28 and owned a car for over 2 years with no accidents at all. Unbelievable...

Wow thats strange I never had a problem. I had one guy on the phone say they couldn't do it till I said I was in the ACT which is an entirely part of australia to NSW. That quickly fixed it.

Bummer, sucks that you will be at work

I've had my FULL licence since 18, and I NEVER had insurance until I was 24. I'm not suggesting that's the way to go, but driving a >$700 POS, and being on apprentice wages, coming from a 'not so dollar'd up (or at all) home, Insurance seemed a 'luxury'
When I received my first lot of insurance for my 8yo, on finance, EL XR8, it cost me $1050annual because of no claims made and 6 years experience under my belt. NOW, I'm about to turn 30, and my modded MPS3 costs me $1080annually.
What's my point? I don't have one. Just that insurance companies charge alot.
Just make sure it IS ok to drive ANYTHING with an MPS badge on it before you buy one. Just because 'P' platers drive cars, DOESN'T mean they're allowed. Just means they don't care about the law. If your law says it's ok, by all means, buy one! Just PLEASE, for the love of all shiney and sexy, don't drive like you stole it. Get to feel the car, build up some experience, and for the most part, just survive. This world doesn't need any more casualties on motor transport roads...

Thanks for the advice. I did have a POS corolla before my current car, and yes, I only had third party on that. But if some unregistered, uninsured dickhead did wite off my Mazda, $2300 a year is a lot cheaper than shelling out $16k.
And I'm in the ACT, there are no restrictions on P-platers in terms of cars.

Mate, from a 40 something old fart. Who probably loves the thrills of speed just as much as you do.
Listen to the advice given, I was 18 just had my full licence for a year after 12 months driving experience. An old 40 something fart said to me "now you will learn to drive" and I still remember clear as day thinking, what does this @#$% know. I know how to drive.
Those were the truest words ever spoken. You may know how to drive and corner fast, probably faster than me! It's the judgement errors that will kill you. Not anticipating that a car may be obscured by the truck you are about to overtake etc.
Invest in some managed funds and in a few years reward yourself with a MPS cash!
I remember being sideways on a highway looking up through the winscreen of a truck (going in the same direction as me) thinking this is going to hurt. I got away with it that time but things could of been a lot different.
The MPS will put you in situations you don't need to be right now. At 40 something my bigest regret is not enjoying my youth more with friends and GIRLS, instead wasted doing up cars!
Hey at the end of the day you will do what you want to, just take some advice and stay alive.
Either way welcome aboad.:2thumb:

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And I have to add - if you want a fast car to get girls and be cool, don't...Women don't care about cars.

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Yeah generally true but I care.

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Originally Posted by Artemis

Yeah generally true but I care.

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mmm, some might care... but unless it's something $$$ a girl probably wont care...
a FD RX7 might work...

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Originally Posted by Artemis

Yeah generally true but I care.

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I do quite like my confident sexy womens car :p

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I do quite like my confident sexy womens car :p

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Lmao touché.

I just picked up a MPS6 and reading that trip computer can be a bit daunting. On average, i get 12.5 to 13l/100km compared to the 9.5l/100km that my integra type s would do, and that wasnt too bad on fuel for it's performance. Make sure you have a part time job that pays well because mps' can drink.

I'm also a uni student but work part time at place that pays well so it's not so bad. Just make sure you do well in uni so that you can compensate later in the future for what you lose now. :2thumb:

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I just picked up a MPS6 and reading that trip computer can be a bit daunting. On average, i get 12.5 to 13l/100km compared to the 9.5l/100km that my integra type s would do, and that wasnt too bad on fuel for it's performance. Make sure you have a part time job that pays well because mps' can drink.

I'm also a uni student but work part time at place that pays well so it's not so bad. Just make sure you do well in uni so that you can compensate later in the future for what you lose now. :2thumb:

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Try resetting it and run it on a premium fuel. I get around 11ish with a bit of spirited driving, on hwy I see under 10L easy. 12.5L is a bit high unless its short frequent drives you're doing with a bit of fun.
A non turbo small engine is always going to use less fuel and they're generally lighter too. The difference is...they're usually behind you!

I average around 10L/100kms. I'm tuned though...

hwy, 7ish
city... 13-14, but i live in inner city sydney... i spend more time using my brakes than accelerator... took me 2.5 hours to travel 35k's the other day :woot: 1/4 of a tank, goneskies!

Well assuming all goes well, I'm hoping to sell my 6 in about a month and hopefully get an mps :)

@Iceman, thankyou for the advice, and rest assured I will be doing defensive driving courses to help me get the most out of my car and hopefully stay alive.
As for enjoying my youth, well I'm sure I would regret it when I was 40 if I didn't buy a fun car. I'm actually really enjoying life at the moment anyway!

Awesome news that you are still set on the MPS. More fun when your young!