hey guys and girls ill be looking at new wheels for the mps soon and wanted to know is anyone else running a 18x8 +38 ? just want to see how they sit if anyone has a pictures or too
thanks kavla
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hey guys and girls ill be looking at new wheels for the mps soon and wanted to know is anyone else running a 18x8 +38 ? just want to see how they sit if anyone has a pictures or too
thanks kavla
Gen 1, gen 2, 6 MPS???
Lowered?
Proper fitting tyres? Not stupid stretched things?
http://www.ozmpsclub.com/forum/handl...yre-setup.html
http://www.ozmpsclub.com/forum/handl...-they-fit.html
If it's a GENII @albii runs something like that.
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I run 18 x 8 +40 on a mps 6, fits with guard rolling.
its a gen 1 3 mps... it is still stock height ill be getting coilovers when im back in aus, as for tires ill get then when i know how much the guards will be rolled and how low i will go.
thanks heaps guys!
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/4367454756_2776865027_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/...b6cb29f9_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2734/...60239135_o.jpg
18x8.5 +38 dropped on road magnet springs
and again evo enkei 18x8.5 +38
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_JHl0GuFF42E/TN...MSP3%20147.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_JHl0GuFF42E/TN...MSP3%20104.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_JHl0GuFF42E/TN...MSP3%20131.JPG
not exactly 18x8 but close enough
I ran 18x8 plus 40 on my gen 1 lowered on coilovers. Didn't need rolling till I tried to go for absolute minimum camber in the rear. With -1*, I needed a little rolling.
WOOT! been saying this for ages how good does the car feel now with a bit more + camber on the rear :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EdgeAutosport.com
Felt great!! Less neg camber in the rear helps the back end rotate better. Oversteer bias in a FWD car FTW! That is actually one of the things that all the editors/reviewers of the new focus ST love about it compared to the MS3. It will kick the back end out with ease and predictability. Of course it cheats by applying the brakes to the inside rear wheel... :/ To get oversteer on the speed you just need a good rear sway bar and less negative camber in the back and you will be good to go :)
I can agree with that. The ST certainly does feel more oversteery(?) than the MPS. Plus with the super quick steering it is a lot more fun than the MPS through the twisties.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdgeAutosport.com
Good to see someone talking about less camber being an improvement and an improvement for practical reasons as opposed to lots of negative camber because it "looks good" or its needed to fit too big wheels
The rear camber on our cars is retarded. Even after a session out on the track my rear inside edges are considerably warmer than the outer edge. Altho by that argument, reducing rear camber will improve rear end grip, which should technically mean less oversteer......
Not exactly... Reducing camber will improve straight line traction due to increased contact patch. However being FWD, the mazda won't benefit from this application in the rear. There are two forms of camber. Static Camber which is what the camber is while the car is not moving. And Dynamic camber which changes as the rear suspension/wheel becomes loaded like when entering a corner. As the dynamic changes occur, the camber will change. This change depends on the suspension setup of the car. If you have less rear camber on a FWD car, the inside wheel will have less traction in a corner as forces load up and put most of the traction burden on the outside rear tire. As that tire becomes over loaded it will slip in to an oversteer situation. Ideally, you want to maintain grip with the outside rear tire just barely holding on. This gives the feeling of the car just following the front wheels around the corner without the back end actually trying to come around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reedy
Yes so it helps keep the front pointing in the right direction, you can keep on the gas a little bit, helping you pull around the corner ;).. Ever been on wet grass in a FWD car with the handbrake on? You can get insane angles as long as you have a good turning circle and your foot on the gas a bit (match the gas to the speed of the slide) you can never loose the rear............ Glad you put it into technical words lolQuote:
Originally Posted by EdgeAutosport.com
LOL no I have never been on grass with handbrake on but dam sure I wanna try nowQuote:
Originally Posted by RedDjinn
Go rent a car I mean buy one ;) lol... smaller car the better doesn't need power, find yourself a field and go nuts. than go get yourself some cheap pot plant pot's set up a coarse slide it through you will only be traveling at like 30-60kph best $100 you will spendQuote:
Originally Posted by Rob777
We do something similar to this here in Colorado in the winter. Except it involves a frozen lake and my 96 Impreza Outback Sport :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RedDjinn