is it worth to buy lowering springs ?

[thundercatpt]

hi

im in doubt if i buy springs to lower me car , is it worth it ? wil i notice any major difference in handling ?


thanks

[SMOKEY]

Maybe initially handling improvement due to lower center of gravity but before long you will blow the OEM shocks and it will be much worse than what you started with.

Springs must be matched to lowered shocks.

[RedDjinn]

This has been proven many time, even i have noticed in previous attemps just lowering springs this will not improve handling! When you lower a car it put every other suspension componant out, shock, swaybars, camber, wheel alignment(until you get this done, which has to be done). To get the most out of lowering springs must be coupled to shock that will work lowered, camber adjustment must be adjusted to get balance back in a corner, depending on drop adjustable swaybar links to get sway bars back to optium working postion... Simple dropping springs in will do nothing other than look more aggressive!!!!

[dazza]

Springs = cosmetic.
As others have said you will blow your shocks 'eventually' if you go lowered springs. You are better off doing it all at once springs/struts or coilovers

[Speed3]

As has been said, lowering springs will do nothing - in most cases it will make the handling worse.

The stock springs are designed to work in unison with the stock shock absorbers, once you change them to stiff, low springs with standard shocks you muck that all up and can get all sorts of issues.

Ever driven behind a lowered car who's rear end is bouncing all the time on a seemingly smooth road? That's a super drop in ride height with stock shocks at work. No improvement at all, except that the car now unsettles on bumpy roads where previously it didn't. That's just an example of what can result from dropped spring/stock shock setups.

[thundercatpt]

how much is shocks + springs ?


is this any good ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOKICO-BLU...item41653e2ea9

[kevstewart]

I done 30mm drop with eibach springs with stock shocks, looks much better and car feels just as smooth. Been on for 18 months without issue.

[RedDjinn]

how much is shocks + springs ?


is this any good ?

TOKICO BLUE HP KIT SHOCKS & SPRINGS MAZDA 6 03-07, MAZDASPEED 6 06-07 | eBay

Im a little conerned about normal 6 and 6MPS having same part numbers for shocks and springs. 2 different cars and performace/weight etc
@MPS2NV @Axspeed6 @rayd and other 6 owners jump in here

[bd581]

Yep, steer clear from anything that says it will fit both cars.
Might fit (which I doubt) but certainly won't be suitable

[Axspeed6]

yes normal 6 parts fit the mps no probs but the spring rates are too soft and will make the car feel sluggish/body roll through the corners, and take off will be affected a lot due to the springs not being able to take the weight transfer of the body weight by the AWD to the rear of the car

[Rayd]

definitely lower = less body roll

but not too low - bottoming out and scraping everywhere !

[MPS2NV]

Like anything, You change one part of a system and another is effected. Is it worth doing? what dont you like about the car at the moment and whats involed in improving that for you? A set of slighty lowered, heavy duty springs will reduce body roll and still give you enough ground clearence but you will still need to have a 4 wheel alignment to bring every thing back into a range that will not create tyre and steering issues. Changing the springs alone wont exempt you from the possibility of requiring new items in the suspension system to complete the exercise which may put the "just springs" into a high price vs outcome.

[Speed3]

definitely lower = less body roll

This is not the case.

[Jmac]

This is not the case.

Really?
I don't agree.

I have the eibach springs and it definitely handles better with less body roll. Every other suspension component is stock.
Why?
I had to break hard on a bend coming home from work one day and the car felt like it would roll.

Springs and no shocks are not ideal and expect the stock shocks to die an early death.
That said handling has improved about 15 percent , body roll is about 70 percent less in my opinion.
How do I compare?
Handling characteristics from a before and after track day at Wakefield park.

Some of what has been said previously is true in certain circumstances. Most of the 'bouncy' cars prob have chopped springs.
If you are going really low you will stuff up your geometry, this is why I went with the eibach pro kit. These are not even an inch lower.. The change in camber actually helped the rear hang on through the corners better than the stock setup, it's not great for tyre wear though.. And shocks are not going to help you there anyways.

My advice - if funds permit go the whole mile.
If not, make sure you purchase progressive rate cold wound springs.
They will be kinder to the stock shocks and you will get a noticeable reduction in body roll and an increase in mid corner stability due to less weight shifting around.
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[Speed3]

Really?
I don't agree.

I have the eibach springs and it definitely handles better with less body roll. Every other suspension component is stock.
Why?
I had to break hard on a bend coming home from work one day and the car felt like it would roll.

Springs and no shocks are not ideal and expect the stock shocks to die an early death.
That said handling has improved about 15 percent , body roll is about 70 percent less in my opinion.
How do I compare?
Handling characteristics from a before and after track day at Wakefield park.

Some of what has been said previously is true in certain circumstances. Most of the 'bouncy' cars prob have chopped springs.
If you are going really low you will stuff up your geometry, this is why I went with the eibach pro kit. These are not even an inch lower.. The change in camber actually helped the rear hang on through the corners better than the stock setup, it's not great for tyre wear though.. And shocks are not going to help you there anyways.

My advice - if funds permit go the whole mile.
If not, make sure you purchase progressive rate cold wound springs.
They will be kinder to the stock shocks and you will get a noticeable reduction in body roll and an increase in mid corner stability due to less weight shifting around.
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Your (very good I should add) spring choice explains all.

The Pro-Kit are a variable rate spring designed to be used with the standard shock or something close to standard (eg: Bilstein B6).

If you had something like King Superlows or even the firmer, lower Eibach Sportline, you'd find what I said to be quite applicable.

[Jmac]

Thanks ;-)

I just wanted to point out that it's not always worse.
Come to think of it some of the bouncy cars i see around have expensive coilovers that are setup poorly. Guess the moral is, do your research or take it to a professional (such as east coast suspensions).

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[MPS2NV]

You could jam a set of kings in there and get a result, if only a slight improvent. Lower, stiffer springs aren't a replacement for swaybars but still offer a reduction in body roll.

[99GTT]

I think getting lower springs does improve general handling somewhat. Just my $0.02, I bought a brand new MR lancer in 2000, and cut the 2 coils off the springs initially, and when I did replace with proper lowered springs there was a significant improvement in handling, and also body roll.



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[Speed3]

I think getting lower springs does improve general handling somewhat. Just my $0.02, I bought a brand new MR lancer in 2000, and cut the 2 coils off the springs initially, and when I did replace with proper lowered springs there was a significant improvement in handling, and also body roll.



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That sounds to me like you experienced the improvement from dodgy cut springs to proper lowered springs, rather than a proper stock vs lowered spring comparison.

[bd581]

That sounds to me like you experienced the improvement from dodgy cut springs to proper lowered springs, rather than a proper stock vs lowered spring comparison.

and also. Lowered springs are (if done properly) not shorter than factory springs. Otherwise you will have the cut spring problem of the spring falling out of the perch on down travel.
Also you will find that the improvement in handling by lowering a car will be found in the change of spring rates, little to do with the actual lowering of the car. definately nothing you will notice