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    Quote Originally Posted by ledfootrob View Post
    Because 3 quarts or 2.8L was too a little on the small side I decided to upgrade my storage capacity especially with a trackday coming up. So I got these two 6 quart or 5.6L Tanks. It was better to have 2 tall tanks to prevent sloshing and I joined them together with some Speedflow fittings and some braided hose. Now as the tanks are connected I only fill 1 tank and then the other tank auto fills and they even out. 10L should last me up to a month at a time.

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    Nice rob!
    Surprised you managed to fit it under the guard!
    Where did you move the pump to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayd View Post
    Nice rob!
    Surprised you managed to fit it under the guard!
    Where did you move the pump to?
    Its behind the tanks next to the horn. Pump seemed a little noisy when I tested it too, hope its not on its way out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ledfootrob View Post
    Its behind the tanks next to the horn. Pump seemed a little noisy when I tested it too, hope its not on its way out.
    hopefully it isnt, you can check with a multimeter or ammeter by seeing how much current the pump is pulling - if near or greater than 10 amps, then i would be concerned :S

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    @ledfootrob u had chance to pull apart n check ur valves yet?

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    Is everyone using diggers metho from hardware stores or where is the methanol being sourced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cletusb View Post
    Is everyone using diggers metho from hardware stores or where is the methanol being sourced?
    If u in Victoria there's few places in city n Dandenong

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    Metho is fine to use and typically a lot more readily available than methanol, I also recommend using distilled water as opposed to regular tap water.

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    Id only use metho if you can get anything else, its mainly ethanol with a small amount of methanol .Get the proper stuff from VP Racing or alike. Coogee Methanol is about $50 for 20L and it will last you months and as said above use distilled water, tap water will form deposit from minerals etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Harry View Post
    @ledfootrob u had chance to pull apart n check ur valves yet?
    One day soon my friend. I think ill have to look at getting Injector seals and TIGS. I`ve got some SURE tigs but im not game to use them lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ledfootrob View Post
    One day soon my friend. I think ill have to look at getting Injector seals and TIGS. I`ve got some SURE tigs but im not game to use them lol

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    I'm running the sure TIGs, so far so good lol
    Realistically, it would be very difficult to stuff up a plastic cut out lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ledfootrob View Post
    One day soon my friend. I think ill have to look at getting Injector seals and TIGS. I`ve got some SURE tigs but im not game to use them lol

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    Lol tru just get a jbr one that's what I got n no problem at all. Injector seals shitty plastic seals were all over the place
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    Meth seems the way to go to get the most for me but i have no clue how it is set to spray ..i have an offer to buy(well did buy and they are on the way) a GTX2867r and catted downpipe both still brand new in the box for $2000. i am ecuteck tuned and can't swap maps to run E85 when it isnt available....
    Rob or Rayd you did the installs yourself i gather, is it programmed through the AP to shoot meth at a certain point or it wouldn't matter if it;s installed and using an Ecuteck tune
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    The kits use either a boost activated on / off type switch (i.e at x psi the pump sprays at 100% capacity), alternatively and far superior, you can get an electronic progressive controller that will ramp up the spray volume as boost increases (based on the MAP sensor voltage).

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    MAF seems to be the best way to do it... as MAF voltage (airflow) goes up, the amount being sprayed goes up

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaneski View Post
    Meth seems the way to go to get the most for me but i have no clue how it is set to spray ..i have an offer to buy(well did buy and they are on the way) a GTX2867r and catted downpipe both still brand new in the box for $2000. i am ecuteck tuned and can't swap maps to run E85 when it isnt available....
    Rob or Rayd you did the installs yourself i gather, is it programmed through the AP to shoot meth at a certain point or it wouldn't matter if it;s installed and using an Ecuteck tune
    Why can't you run E85 if your ECUTEC tuned? I'm ECUTEC tuned and lining up an E85 tune.

    sorry didnt read post properly , change maps.

    I don't think it's legal running meth and u might run into insurance problems if something happens
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    Quote Originally Posted by chef View Post
    Why can't you run E85 if your ECUTEC tuned? I'm ECUTEC tuned and lining up an E85 tune.

    sorry didnt read post properly , change maps.

    I don't think it's legal running meth and u might run into insurance problems if something happens
    We are talking meth and making max HP on a turbo charged car....if worrying what could happen we would be discussing that on an i own a very boring slow Yaris forum.
    Back to topic Rob seems to make some very good grunt on a boost set up system...bottam line is how much for one of you gentlemen who have beenthere and done it assist in an install if just regular fuel gives not much gain.
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    If your competent with some minor electrical wiring the kits arent too hard to install. It all comes down to cost as to which controller you get. Boost kits are the most simple and cost effective kit and you just set it to half your max boost and it then sprays at 100% which works great. MAF signal kits can be used progressively but are more expensive and a little harder to set up. I think I paid $250-300 for my Snow PerPerformance kit. I've used nozzles from D04 up to D07 now on the BNR. Just with the D04 and a 50/50 mix I was able to run alot more timing and make about 20wkw extra. Also you help clean your valves and your worrying about BATS becomes a thing of the past. I regularly see BATS below intake temps.

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    The differences between MAF & MAP based systems is much the same as the difference between methanol & ethanol, both work equally effectively at reducing knock & BATs. I really comes down to personal preference and availability, Methanol is readily available in the US, where as here, ethanol (Methylated Spirits) is more common.

    If you are going for an all out tuning to maximise the power from WMI, you should be spending a LOT more on a kit, utilizing things such as flow control monitors & fail safe systems, a blocked nozzle can be catastrophic in a heavily meth tuned engine, some of the fail-safes in the more advanced controllers can be programmed to open your waste-gate in the event that flow falls under a set volume.

    I had mine for the fact that its a bit of cheap insurance in the event of say some dodgy fuel, and the fact that even in the middle of summer the car was pulling like it was a winters day.
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    If I had to do it again I would pick a MAP based controller, since it would react quicker than a boost based system, and help eliminate the post lift richness that sometimes occurs since the nozzle has a slight lag in stopping the meth injection due to the nature of the boost based controller.

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