Brake Rotor + Pad Combo

[ZedN]

I've got to bite the bullet and buy new brake rotors and pads as I have been having issues with my brakes since I last got them replaced in December and 4 separate occasions by 2 different mechanics places haven't been able to fix them - instead they are worse and I am afraid I am going to cause damage if I don't do something soon.

So I am on MPS garage and this is what I am looking at

Rotors:
Front DBA Slotted 4000 Series $413
Front DBA Slotted & Cross Drilled 4000 Series $482

Brakes:
Hawk HPS Brake Pads $170
Hawk Performance Ceramic Pads $180

For a regular daily driver, am I going to see a benefit out of the more expensive Slotted and Cross Drilled?
Ceramic Pads seem better from the description, so for $10 is there any negatives?

I don't mind spending a bit more for better quality that is going to last... But I don't need high performance track worth brakes because I just use the car to drive from home to work everyday.

[TD]

Message Greg at GSL Rallysport (he's on here).

Local to Brisbane and his prices are better than that overall, knows his brake stuff too.

[AD07]

Yeah...what TD said, i PM'd Greg & he actually got back to me (not like MPSG).
He didnt try to sell me something i didnt need (as mine is only driven to work & back also)& said that a new set of pads would do the trick.

[ZedN]

Yeah, I thought that is what would be suggested.. And I got some QFMs on now which is what started this whole issue... The way they were installed by my local mechinic place was the issue not the pads themselves but for some reason I just want to try something different. Piece of mind thing I guess.

[Hama3]

Hey Zedn,

I had the same problem on my 07 MPS3. I had a set of QFM's, front & rear after the stock pads were worn & had nothing but issues.

I ended up replacing my front rotors with DBA slotted & installing the ceramic hawk pads front & rear........

has been an absolute pleasure since. They are work well either cold or hot........

My 2 bobs worth anyways.........

[projectrracing]

if it is just a regular daily driver, do you even need slotted rotors at all?

[ZedN]

Thanks Hama, sounds good. I really wanted to hear from someone with the ceremics so glad you replied.

And projectrracing, I don't think we need half the stuff we have on our cars but hey make us feel better, lol. No seriously, I was told that slotted (at least) is safer in the wet? And considering how much rain we have had here in the last 3 months I don't mind paying a bit more for piece of mind. Slotted and drilled might be a bit much though, but they do look nice.

[projectrracing]

the slots improve high temp braking. they ain't got nothing to do with wet weather. if they make you feel better, then go for it. clearly you understand you don't need it. i was just pointing it out as it had not come up in the thread anywhere.

cross drilling is very old technology that is very outdated in todays world. with 20+ years of good pad compound advancements. there is no need for cross drilled rotors.

[gslrallysport]

The issue with the QFM comes from the fact that they're a slightly modified Volvo pad, which in the A1RM isn't an issue as a track orientated pad doesn't suffer the same issues as a high performance street pad does. We are slowly phasing HPX out in favor of a better performance street pad. It's a European performance pad called Remsa, which is rated to 650 degrees (versus 550 for the HPX), whilst still being low dust and rotor wear. Also the Remsa come with noise reducing features such as a relief groove and shamfers in the pad material, as well as a soft backing shim, all of which the HPX do not come with. We've been supplying Remsa to high performance street road cars like Porsche and Ferrari for many years (where noise and rotor wear on $4k rotors simply isn't an option...), but the pricing has now become such that we're now able to expand it to most road cars. Remsa to suit MPS3 is $125 for the front, and $95 for the rear, and unlike the HPX, are specifically designed for the MPS.

QFM A1RM we'll continue to stock as they're a phenomenally good pad for the money, but in that high performance street pad market, where noise and fitment issues aren't acceptable, Remsa is where it is for us now for most vehicles, not just MPS's...

And as above, can definitely beat those DBA prices by the time freight is factored in.

[AD07]

Thanks Greg......In fact, i just ordered the Remsa front pads today.
Cheers for the prompt sevice, much appreciated.