MPS or Golf GTi?

[quacker]

Hi, I'm tossing up between the Mazda 3 MPS and the Golf GTi at the moment. Both are fantastic cars with the MPS being a more faster and raw beast, whereas the GTi is more refined and comfortable.
I've heard that GTi's have reliability issues, but cannot find much talk about these issues from owners because of the 'it's a German car and we paid a premium, so there is no issue with reliability' mentality.
The MPS on the other hand is Japanese - and we all know how reliable Japanese cars are.
Being a MPS forum, I guess there is a little bias here, but I want to know what you guys think about the GTi compared with the MPS

[blackbetty]

MPS GTi

[IBOMPS]

dont really think that by posting on a MPS forum you are going to get a totally unbiased opinion here!!!!!

But my vote is for... wait for it..................................





















MPS

[STEALTH_MPS]

After reading up some of the stage kits you can get for the GTI from apr tuning. id go with the GTI.

BUT

im in love with my mps so i wouldnt give it up for anything else atm

[Nirvandan]

If you mean the new GTi then the GTi hands down.

[BlueMPS]

I think you have summed it up.

GTI is for people who want to think they have a quick car but can not really hand one. If you go this way i have heard also it is a good idea to sell before the Warranty runs out.

MPS is for people who want a quick car and can handle them. It will not always behave but that is half the fun.

Also remember when test driving an MPS on 75% Throttle is like a GTI on full throttle.

[bd581]

Funny this, as seen by watching the debates dad has started on the VW golf forums, i can honestly say that we (the mps forum) are not at all biased.
dad asked the same question on the 2 forums. Here the reply was "that doesn't seem right, the golf should be much better"
Golf forum said "your wrong, golf is better"

anyway.
Personally i think its horses for corses.
The golf is the better car, better built, better handling. But not as good as the price suggests.
The MPS i think is better value for money, Everything is standard that is expensive options in the VW.

If you want just a good all round car, i'd pick the Golf (i nearly did)
If you wan't something a bit more exciting and different (look at how many GTi's are on the road) pick the MPS

[zippymps3]

Depends on how much fun you wanna have and how many points you got left on your license.

If the answer is lots, heaps or enormous amounts, then my answer is MPS

[Caffeine Fiend]

Brad I think the same way you do on this. I think the GTI is a great car.

In terms of value for money though, I can't (and in fact didn't) go past the MPS.

When my Mk IV GTI came up for end of lease late last year, I tried to justify going to the new one, but by the time I optioned it up to the level of what came standard in the MPS (Bluetooth, satnav, 18" wheels, electrically adjustable seats etc) the price difference was remarkable and something I just couldn't justify. To say nothing of the higher servicing costs (I would pay easily a third more per service with the GTI than I do now with the MPS)

Plus now that the Golf R is out, all I'd need would be one pulling up next to me at the lights while in my GTI and I'd be in tears






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[SarcasticOne]

yeah, sounds about right Caff, when a R pulls up next to you, you'll feel sad and like you got the worse car

the biggest thing between the 2 is, do you want an auto gearbox, if so, golf GTi (done)

if value for money is the thing for you, then MPS

the MPS is different to the golf, try the 2, see which you prefer... but as has been said in terms of what you get for your $$$, the MPS wins, easily.... besides, i hate tartan, leather any day

As for issues, the 2 most "infamous" of these is the pistons bending, but i havent seen any reported instances of this happening on stock gen 2 motors (seen stock gen 1's and 6MPS motors do it) and there is only a few people who have had this happen to them... other than that, smoking turbos, but havent seen any gen 2's with that

the other thing is the rear engine mount failing (buy aftermarket, $200) the cruise control sometimes de-activates when going down a hill at 110km/hr, oh and the parcel shelf rattle

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Funny this, as seen by watching the debates dad has started on the VW golf forums, i can honestly say that we (the mps forum) are not at all biased.
dad asked the same question on the 2 forums. Here the reply was "that doesn't seem right, the golf should be much better"
Golf forum said "your wrong, golf is better"

funny how a MPS forum was right
a golf R should be/is a match for a 6MPS performance wise... so when the R gets left for dead by a stock(ish) 6, you know something is wrong