Ethanol (E10) less economical

[CharlieBrown]

Last time I spoke to my sales guy he told me Shell Vortex98 was the best fuel to put in these days......any truth to that???

I put a thread up some time ago about what fuel people use.

I used to use BP, but now use Caltex Vortex98.

[Doc]

Mobil 98. Or shell 98.. what ever. I honestly think the location of where you buy the fuel is almost as important.

*Scratches head*
not sure how to put this diplomatically.. but in some 'rougher' areas, ive filled up on "98" and I have a bucket load of knock retard. Unless you can check your fuel before it goes in ( i know I cant) you have to trust the petrol station. And well.. shady areas have shady petrol stations IMO.

I think I got away with that... maybe


Doc

[Wardski]

Come on Ward give us the insider scoop

I dont need to - just dont use it.

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not sure how to put this diplomatically.. but in some 'rougher' areas, ive filled up on "98" and I have a bucket load of knock retard. Unless you can check your fuel before it goes in ( i know I cant) you have to trust the petrol station. And well.. shady areas have shady petrol stations IMO

But this is so true. I stress cannot enough about the importance of going to servos with high turnover. BP on the M1 gold coast hwy is probably one of the "freshest", and others like BP in Manly has a high thru put and clean bowsers. Shell on Wynnum road just past the Tingalpa lights has new tanks and a station facelift - I've heard good stuff about them as well, altho the BP at Tingalpa lights has gone downhill - always broken fuel nozzles, and I had a bunch of KR with the MPS on a few occasions (ended up sticking with Manly BP instead).

As I've said before, go with where you know you've never had issues.

[A Pirate]

not only is it bad for the cars its killing mowers, whipper snippers and outboards...the ethanol in the mix is damaging rubber fuel lines, carbies etc (i put my mower in for a service just to fix a broken pull start (i do not touch e10 at all) and the mower guy is flat out repairing E10 damaged mowers thus I had a 10 day wait for repairs.

[Wardski]

not only is it bad for the cars its killing mowers, whipper snippers and outboards...the ethanol in the mix is damaging rubber fuel lines, carbies etc (i put my mower in for a service just to fix a broken pull start (i do not touch e10 at all) and the mower guy is flat out repairing E10 damaged mowers thus I had a 10 day wait for repairs.

I do not have sympathy for those using E10 in mowers, whipper snippers and outboards - especially if E10 is not manufacturer approved and the user doesnt recognise this (eg, read the manual).

Ok, heres the low down:

E10 compliant motors must have polymer coated rubber seals, fuel lines, etc to comply with E10 regs - but it has been proven that this polymer coating doesnt last very long either (this is confidential info). E10 also contains a high fibre count, which over extended periods of use, can cause fuel starvation if the fuel filter is not changed regularily. I could go on and on about the negatives of E10 - but I would be here for a week writing this comment.. so in a nut shell - just don't use it.

Enough said - close this thread.

[240MPS]

I do not have sympathy for those using E10 in mowers, whipper snippers and outboards - especially if E10 is not manufacturer approved and the user doesnt recognise this (eg, read the manual).

Ok, heres the low down:

E10 compliant motors must have polymer coated rubber seals, fuel lines, etc to comply with E10 regs - but it has been proven that this polymer coating doesnt last very long either (this is confidential info). E10 also contains a high fibre count, which over extended periods of use, can cause fuel starvation if the fuel filter is not changed regularily. I could go on and on about the negatives of E10 - but I would be here for a week writing this comment.. so in a nut shell - just don't use it.

Enough said - close this thread.

I second that ... I didn't think anyone with a MPS would even consider this option, i can understand if this was brought up on the OMC forum but the MPS No offense to Dan ...... It's good data to read about though, thanks..... Trying to stop the mrs using it in the Pajero, she uses Shell with her coupons Pfft....Everytime I put fuel in, I use 95..... Penny pitching for $5 a tank cost you more in the long run????

[shakespeare]

Hi all,

The pros and cons of using E10 fuel has been sufficiently discussed in this thread. Thank you to everyone for contributing your thoughts and knowledge.

If you feel you'd like to add something that differs from discussion here, then please let one of the Forum Staff know.

Thanks again everyone!