2nd gear synchros

[esp22]

HI

Been driving lately and gear 2 seems to be harder to get into

have the 2xs ssp installed but not sure if its my bad driving or something wrong with gearbox...

it just seems a like a lot more effort is need to get it into second gear from first

is there an oil or are my syncros on the way out

car about to reach 100,000kms but hasnt had a hard life


Thanks

[SarcasticOne]

2nd is a PITA in these cars... even worse with a SSP

[Oldhead]

Change your box oil ,if it hasnt been done recently. It could help slightly. +1 to above .
Previous owner may have used diff pressure on gear lever hence slight wear to synchro,s . Its a well known fact with trucks that diff drivers can effect wear to gear box .

[lup15]

if you havent already, get a rear engine mount. you'd be surprised how much the gear shifts get better. especially seeing as you had done 100k kms on your car, the engine mount bushes may be deteriorating... having said that, if its only 2nd gear, than syncros may be dieing fresh gearbox oil will help, but its only prolonging the inevitable

[Jrbris]

rear engine mount and shifter bushings are the best 2 mods i did. rear engine mount alone helps when u loose traction and keeps the power on the ground, shifter bushing make the gear lever alot more firm and much better feeling of being connected to the car.

I would recommend these 2 mods to anyone, stock mps or not.

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[Nirvandan]

2nd is a PITA in these cars... even worse with a SSP

Huh? 2nd gear is actually my fave.

[Axspeed6]

3rd's better once you have a bigger turbo 2nd is ova to fast

[Doug_MPS6]

The reason 2nd synchros fail more than most is that folks try to ram the shift through as fast as possible and don't give the synchro cones time to do their job and they are typically racing it away on high power settings in street light drags. Ultimately there is a cost to it.

I see it a lot where I am working now, in Argentina, almost every car that isn't an auto (and that is most) has knackered synchro on 2nd (including the Toyota Hilux which I inherited recently), even relatively new cars. They all imagine they are Fangio here (I guess some of you might have heard of him) and drive accordingly, even though 99% of them a fraction of the true driver that Fangio was, hard on the gas, hard on the brakes, swerving all over the shop, no indicators, no patience, way too fast in hazard situations when they can't see what is coming the other way. And a road toll that matches it too - huge! We passed the body of a newly-deceased motorcyclist still lying on the road the other day after he T-boned an aging and grossly overloaded Peugeot that seemed to have been in the wrong. Sobering. But I digress.

Depending on where you live, it is getting colder in Australia now with approaching winter and early morning shifts are always a bit tighter until the engine warms up, and the 1-2 shift is where you notice it most. My Maserati had a glorious ZF gearbox but first off in the morning, 2nd would be tight and would snick if I didn't take my time with it. Once that huge gearbox was warmed up though, it was a dream to use.

[Axspeed6]

@Doug_MPS6 i agree completely, you have to warm up that goes without saying i sit and let my car warm up for ten mins if you just get in and go it will cause excessive wear but i really shouldn't have to tell anyone this

[Jmac]

Not always..
A minute or two idle then driving gently for the first 10 minutes is the best way to warm it up.
Idling won't warm gearbox oil very much :-)
I double clutch first thing in the morning till I'm a few sets of lights away from home.

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