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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmanDan View Post
    How is Ezy-Flash going to compare to Xede?

    Pros/Cons?
    The engine management system between the Gen 1 and Gen 2 3MPS is completely different. At this stage we are developing the Ezy-FLASH for the Gen 1 3MPS. The Gen 2 3MPS Ezy-FLASH development hasn't been allocated an R&D schedule at this stage, so there is no Ezy-FLASH to compare the XEDE Processor to for the latest model MPS.

    But in a perfect world if ChipTorque had an unlimited development budget and the Ezy-FLASH was made and available for the Gen 2, then it is likely to be a superior product to the XEDE Processor. This is because reflash technology allows full control over the factory ECU as opposed to intercepting specific ECU signals and altering them with the XEDE Processor.

    Both XEDE Processor and Flash Tuning have been proven as effective tuning solutions, they are both different technologies. It's just a matter as to which is available for your vehicle and better suits your needs.

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    Default Flash Tuning Pros and Cons

    Flash Tuning
    PROS
    Supports Gen 1 Mazda 3 MPS
    Supports Mazda 6 MPS
    More tuneability, can control more tune parameters
    Non invasive installation, no cutting or splicing of wiring
    Price of custom dyno reflash is actually cheaper than interceptor style supply, fit and tune
    Will be compatible for future support by Ezy-FLASH

    CONS
    Currently only available at ChipTorque Gold Coast, Qld
    If Mazda upgrade your PCM, the flash tune will need to be reflashed into you vehicle's ECU by ChipTorque Gold Coast.
    Tuning time is longer (more expensive) than an XEDE retune.

    Note that ChipTorque are developing the Ezy-FLASH Pro and Tuning software that will solve the first 2 cons.

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    XEDE Processor
    PROS
    XMap tuning software provided with product
    User friendly tuning software
    Can be custom tuned by any experienced Dyno Tuner
    Tuning time is faster (cheaper) than reflash method
    Supports 2 separate tune maps (dual maps)
    Two high current outputs for boost control, water spray or auxiliary injector, etc.
    Revert to your standard tune using optional By-pass Plug
    Can be used with an existing ECU flash tune to easily fine tune the parameters
    Live data display through XMap
    Password protection for map data stored in the XEDE Processor using XMap
    12 Month Warranty
    14 Day Satisfaction Guarantee

    CONS
    Installation involves hard wiring the product into your vehicle's wiring loom
    You'll have a physical aftermarket modification fitted to your vehicle
    Control is limited to that available through the XEDE: The XEDE Processor is an interceptor style Engine Management System. It generates changes in fueling and ignition timing by changing the factory ECU’s load and crank reference input signals to improve the factory tune
    Will support up to a 25% increase in fuel injector size
    Last edited by ChipTorque; 23-11-2009 at 02:54 PM. Reason: Didn't change heading to XEDE Processor Pros and Cons in 2nd post

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    I have a question.

    Will Xede make a car hard to start and increase the time an engine takes to reach normal idle after start up?

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    exed... ftw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher_13 View Post
    I have a question.

    Will Xede make a car hard to start and increase the time an engine takes to reach normal idle after start up?
    I wouldn't expect any difference as an interceptor doesn't usually change these cold start values, as they are not performance related.

    These value would be left the same to maintain factory starting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin740 View Post
    I wouldn't expect any difference as an interceptor doesn't usually change these cold start values, as they are not performance related.

    These value would be left the same to maintain factory starting.
    So I keep hearing. The exhaust people say that the exhaust is not to blame either...

    Something must be to blame or it would not happen.

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    What about option C

    ..all of the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher_13 View Post
    I have a question.

    Will Xede make a car hard to start and increase the time an engine takes to reach normal idle after start up?
    I think its most likely the xede, it might be taking a couple of turns more to sense the correct crank angle reference. I know some other aftermarket ecu's (in general) take a bit longer than factory.

    Anybody feel free to correct me.
    ^^^The message is up there stupid^^^

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    ^^ Exactly, it takes a few more cranks to pick up and adjust the CAS (crank angle sensor) reference, as far as cold starting idle though, it shouldn't make any difference as the Xede only works when the ECU is in open loop mode, i.e under load.
    Unless the car goes straight into open loop from cold, some do this for warm up purposes, will try and remember to check the dashhawk this morning when cold starting.

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